Post copied from April 5th: Bitch, please...

I say and do hateful things to people, and then claim not to hate. I hold grudges longer than a Hatfield and McCoy put together, and then claim not to hold grudges.

I think that there are plenty of people out there stupid enough to take me at my word, even when everything I do contradicts the phoney image of myself that I'm trying so hard to portray.

I make demands on friends, and issue ultimatums, like a child and as though my friends just don't have enough trifling, petty bastards in their own life. I think that will cause them to value that quality in me.

When someone uses a particular argument on me, I turn around and use the same argument on them, oblivious to the fact that those arguments just won't work for my case.

When someone says something to me or about me, I turn around and say the same things back, because I just don't have a single original thought in my own head, and because I've simply run out of ways to bogusly defend my childish bullshit.

If you're completely uninvolved but argue in my favor, I have no issues whatsoever. If you are involved, and you speak out against me, I call you a meddling outsider. This makes sense to me because I'm an idiot.

When you raise a brand new issue (like, for instance, the recent taking down of a message board) I then come on and talk about a bunch of old fights that 1) ironically, I started, and 2) that have nothing to do with your original post. Then I tell everyone you're opening old wounds...or picking old scabs...as it were....

I make shady, snaky references to other people, even naming them outright, and then when they get sick of my bullshit and dare to speak back, I tell everyone "See that? They just won't let it drop."

Most of my arguments are based on misinformation, intentional misdirection, and outright bullshit. Then I say other people don't know what's going on.

If I didn't make it up or verify it personally, or it just doesn't suit my argument at the time, well then dammit, it doesn't exist.

I create--demand, even--a moral compulsion in all my friends to fight my battles for me, even when they PM and email others that what I did was wrong, hurtful, and mean.

If ya ain't fer me, you're agin me...the axe will fall!

Post copied from April 10th: Dance, puppets, dance!

Still waiting for that axe to fall. Can you say "empty threat"?

Post copied from April 10th: Wind 'em all up and they'll do your bidding....

Okay, I saw someone suggest a book--Children of the Matrix, by David Icke. I read a quick excerpt at Amazon, and was just absolutely floored--I have to order a copy of this book immediately and I strongly suggest that you all do too. Here's an excerpt:

When a few people wish to control and direct a mass of humanity, there are certain key structures that have to be in place. These are the same whether you are seeking to manipulate an individual, family, tribe, town, country, continent, or planet.

First, you have to set the “norms,” what is considered right and wrong, possible or impossible, sane or insane, good and bad. Most of the people will follow those norms without question because of the baa-baa mentality, which has prevailed within the collective human mind for at least thousands of years. Second, you have to make life very unpleasant for those few who challenge your imposed “norms.” The most effective way to do this is to make it, in effect, a crime to be different. So those who beat to a different drum, or voice a different view, version of “truth” and lifestyle, stand out like a black sheep in the human herd. You have already conditioned that herd to accept your norms as reality and so, in their arrogance and ignorance, they then ridicule or condemn those with a different spin on life. This pressurizes them to conform and serves as a warning for those others in the herd who are also thinking of breaking away. There is a Japanese saying that goes: Don’t be a nail that stands out above the rest because that’s the first one to get hit.”

This creates a situation fundamental to the few controlling the many, in which the masses police themselves and keep each other in line. The sheep become the sheepdog for the rest of the herd. It is like a prisoner trying to escape while the rest of his cellmates rush to stop him. If that happened, we would say the prisoners were crazy—how could they do that? But humans are doing precisely this to each other every day by demanding that everyone conform to the norms to which they blindly conform. This is nothing less than psychological fascism—the thought police with agents in every home, everywhere. Agents so deeply conditioned that most have no idea they are unpaid mind controllers.

Okay people--sound like anyone we know??? I know one thing's for sure: David Icke has been reading the Monk message board!

Post copied from April 12th: I don't hate people....much....

What it looks like when something fails to make sense....

Post copied from April 14th: Kees' latest boneheaded maneuver....

Kees' latest boneheaded maneuver.

I don't need to repost all the gory details. Click the link to Tami's blog. Kees is now impersonating another poster from 3 years ago in a lame attempt to resurrect an old fight.
She was caught lurking in the chats to spy on people and gossip about people and rip people apart behind their backs. Without being caught, she admitted on Mandeville's board that she was sitting in the chats under 'guest' in order to spy on people talking about her.

She was caught PMing her toadie on Mandeville's board discussing how to manipulate Damien and his board--his words, not mine. Yes, caught. Damien read the PMs as owner and administrator of that site.

Here, she's caught impersonating a poster from three years ago who was harrassing Tami--trying to resurrect that very very very old fight.

Exactly how many times does kees have to get caught red-handed before these idiots finally say okay, she's the one fucking up....she's the one keeping the fight going....she's the one holding the grudges....how many times???? If you need a brick to fall on your head, well, let me know. I aims to please. I know a guy who knows a guy...I can make a few calls....

So she keeps getting caught in the dirt she's doing, and still there are a couple people who are clueless.

You're empowering the instigator!
You're supporting the instigator!
You're validating the instigator!

And you scratch your heads and wonder what could possibly be the source of the hostility. Whuh??!?!!?!

So Tami gets an email saying 'I am having a difficult time being your friend' blah blah blah 'you made me cry' blah blah blah 'picking on an old woman with problems' blah blah blah.

Problems? What kinds of problems? Mental? That's apparent. I think the appropriate response is NOT to enable a mean person with mental problems. I prefer the 'negative reinforcement' approach. Meanness and evilness and snakiness should be discouraged in unbalanced people.

Yeah. I think the nuttier you are, the more you should endeavor to NOT lie, NOT be mean, NOT hold grudges, NOT to be snakey and evil and sneaky, and NOT fuck with people in general. If these people were actually her friends, they'd at least make an attempt to save kees from her own stupid.

Post copied from April 14th: Will the real Kjeina please stand up?

Um, February 14th??? But the new kjeina now has a birthday identical--day, month, year--to the wart on the USA Monk board's butt--that precious little cyber-boil, kees. Coincidence? Did the stars align in the sky?

Bubba wishes the real Kjeina "Happy Birthday" .....on February 14th:

The new Kjeina shows up, making ridiculous claims:

Um, you're the original kjeina? There's your intent.

A new account using the exact same email address? Impossible. Throughout the muddled updates, the system retained all original addresses, even when it wouldn't let those posters back in.

Post copied from April 15th: I'd like to welcome new USA poster--Kjees!

It's official--the IP addresses match! The new kjeina is NOT the old kjeina or even the real kjeina--it's kees!!

1) To resurrect an old fight with Tami so that she's waging a war on two fronts, and

2) To make Tami look combative. Look, people! She's fighting with everyone! NOT!

Wonder if these minions of hers are scratching their heads yet, or do they push on as always, oblivious? A more clueless bunch, I've never encountered. If you'll defend evil, you ARE evil.

Wow. Give an idiot enough rope, and they'll hang themselves. We didn't give Kjees ANY rope...
And she still hung herself!!

Post copied from April 15th: My plea to USAAdmin, in light of Tami's brilliant discovery....

Click here: My plea to USAAdmin for Kjees' removal from the Monk board

Kjees' behavior is illustrative of exactly who here has been the antagonist, the instigator, and the harasser. To those who are still either too blind or too stupid to see it:

1) Being nuts does not excuse you to be mean to other people.

2) Being nuts does not excuse you from apologizing--genuinely, earnestly, and without excuses and lies--to those you've hurt.

3) Being nuts does not preclude others from defending themselves and fighting back. Not in America. Not on planet earth.

Post copied from April 15th: What is it about "Identical IP addresses" you don't understand?

Kjees is an idiot. I hear she's still trying to play off that kjeina24 is a different person. Um, you stupid backwater cunt--is kjeina coming over to your house to play on the internet? What is it about SAME IP ADDRESSES you just don't understand??? It's YOU.

You're in here reading several times a day--how the fuck did you miss Tami's blogpost with the screenshot of a USAAdmin PM stating the IP addresses are exactly the same??? It's YOU.

As to expletives, what is it about "if I do it, they'll do it back" that you also can't seem to wrap your brain around?? Once your grandtwit came in there saying 'I don't give a fuck what she said,' then expletives were fair game. You keep trying to claim rights of conduct for yourself that for whatever obscure, perverse reason, we are just not allowed to also exercise. Um, not.

Don't like it? Don't do it. I had to behave myself on the usa board--not in here and not in emails. Your ass needed ripping, and I ripped it. Fuck you. Twice. Don't like that "brand of humor"??? What was that garbage YOU posted all over the Mandevilla? Bitchology? Proud to be a bitch? It was all over that beautiful board like beer cans in front of a trailer--bitch bitch bitch bitch. Damien had that word in the censor list and it wasn't blocking it--we PMed back and forth over that one. Ugly. Ugly as sin. And you try to knock me for expletives??? You see everyone doing it but you. Cunt.

And don't even compare what Jeff did to what you're doing. Jeff's dual identity was a running gag. It was NOT hidden and it was done for humor--two facts that were apparently lost on a select group of humor-less, joyless fucks on that board--you in particular.

Here's another glaring difference: JEFF NEVER IMPERSONATED A KNOWN POSTER. JEFF NEVER USED HIS SECOND IDENTITY TO HARASS AND TORMENT ANOTHER POSTER. See the differences yet?

His second identity was a brand new account--new name, new poster. Did Jeff create an account to appear as Raven? Teresa? MJWANNABE? Nope. You couldn't do the same, could you, Kjees? You needed a poster Tami knew and had fought with previously. You needed a former nemesis to reappear. Funny that you had to go back over 3 years to find one. If Tami wasn't a grownup and attempted the same stunt on you, she would only have had to go back what? A week? Yesterday? An hour ago? And oh the laundry list of names she would have had to choose from. She could have impersonated me and really kept you busy, don't you think?

What you are doing has been made very clear to usa admin in a couple of PMs. What you're doing is this: IMPERSONATING A KNOWN POSTER FOR REASONS OF DECEPTION, HARASSMENT, AND ABUSE.

And you're still trying to say that's not you??!? IDENTICAL IP ADDRESSES. This is sounding an awful lot like your battle cry of several months ago--'No! That wasn't me in the chat! It wasn't me!'

It was you, bitch. What kind of trashy-ass, gutter upbringing did you have that you lie so relentlessly and so often, and think it's normal?

There are people anxiously awaiting the blocking and banning of your IP from that board, and the admin over there has all the screenshots and is currently reviewing the issue. You make that forum a hostile environment. How many people have you chased out of there? 5? 6? 12?

If all goes well, you should pack your bags now, bitch.

Post copied from April 20th: More lies....

Now she's saying she started Kjeina24 in order to avoid conflict with Tami. Bullshit, anyone?

1) If you're trying to avoid conflict with a specific person, you don't adopt the identity of a poster who fought with the person you're supposedly trying to avoid conflict. You're asking for a fight with precisely that person when you show up on the board looking like someone who has attacked them before. Defies logic and so, is a classic boneheaded kjees maneuver.

2) If you're trying to avoid conflict with a specific person, assuming you're stupid enough to choose an ID of a poster that person has fought with, you don't then go into a thread wherein no argument is taking place and then proceed to engage that poster aggressively and in a hostile manner. Kinda squeezes all the cream out of that twinkie.

Avoiding conflict??!? Where does all the avoiding take place here? That's not avoidance. That's engagement.

Are Quin and Raven the only two people on the planet stupid enough to believe these excuses?? I was told Kjees has the mental acuity of a fifth grader. I disagree. She has the mental acuity of a third grader. These three people are functionally retarded. Nowhere else on earth do you have one person getting caught in this many lies and still have two people believing her time after time after time.

Time to PM admin yet again.

Post copied from May 29th: Oh please, oh please, let it be true!

Pinch! (Now that's how you do a pinch, you old bat. It ain't nothing if you can't put some stink on it!)

There's scuttlebutt flying around by some very happy people that it's now safe to come back to the USA forum. Not sure, myself. If this is true, they've bagged up the trash, but will they be carrying it down to the curb?

People have been leaving the Monk forum to the point that I thought someone had pulled the fire alarm--all due to one poster. Is she banned yet? A suspension is so temporary. When are they going to ban this psychopath??

And I saw a copy of kees' post or was it an email or another drive-by PMming, where she says she's owed an apology from me. NO. I don't owe you an apology by any stretch of the imagination. You've owed one to the entire board for months--for what you did, NOT for the lie you concocted to dodge culpability.

I don't owe you an apology. You were mean and evil. I responded. NEVER will you get an apology from me. You have a better chance of snatching a pork chop from an alligator. I don't apologize to mean, rude, abusive, delusional people who tell lie after lie after lie after lie. I don't owe you a damn thing. Swallow that, and find some way to move on with your life. You're mean. Bite me.

What happened to Quinfran and Raven? The ones who sat by watching kees tell lie after lie after lie after lie, and be mean to people, and defend her through all that? If you'll defend evil, you ARE evil. If you find yourself covering up someone else's lies, when does the lightbulb go on over your heads that you're on the wrong side???? Do you yourselves lie so much that kees' egregious behavior doesn't strike you as odd??? And these people claim to go to church. Stay the hell out of church. It's doing you no good. None of you.

Of all the churches I've been in over the years, the members who most fervently memorized passages and verses were precisely the same ones who found themselves incapable of taking with them and adopting the morality of those verses. And every single church has at least one. They can recite the bible from memory and never miss a service. These are the same ones I won't turn my back on--in fact I sit with my back to the wall whenever they're in the room, lest I catch a knife back there.

These members understood the bible only facially. "If I recite these things, then I am good." Um, no. It's not ritual and rote. The morality is the thing that rides BELOW the surface, and is that which is supposed to literally, physically, and completely manifest in your CONDUCT. What does that mean?

It means God doesn't care what you say--He cares what you MEAN. He's in your head. He can see what you're doing. Point blank, if you're up to some shit, He knows it. He doesn't care what comes out of your mouth--He knows your heart.

I'm not a caged dog. I talk back. Like it or not, I talk back. Always.

Kees--your heart is black as tar and stained as sin. You're rotted.

Post copied from June 3rd: Hat not included....

Copy of my comment on Tami's blog:

OMG--go read your email. I can't even believe what I'm reading. Kathy didn't tell me I couldn't share this exchange of PMs with the evil one. Y'all ain't gonna believe this shit.

First, Kees says, in response to Kathy asking if she was suspended, "No, you heard wrong." Then says that the bogus Kjeina account was suspended for a month (when the hell did that happen? Was that account even started that long ago? Can you find a whole month wherein that account wasn't posting?)

Then she says "To the best of my knowledge neither account was ever restricted, closed or deleted from just the Monk forum, nor are they closed or under further suspension from the USA Network Forum Message Boards."
Bulletin, bitch: If you can't post, you're restricted. That's what a restriction is.

Then says: "I have received no messages or explainations (sic)from the USA administrator as to why they were suspended one at a time." Um, I thought you said "No, you heard wrong." ???????? Can't keep track of her own lies even within the same PM.

Then this post: "I would like to add; despite some insults being bandied around on other social networking sites (Kees is referring to our blogs here) I have no axe to grind with anyone here, past or present."

Kees, you ignorant slut. YOU'VE BEEN GRINDING THE SAME DAMN AX WITH THE SAME PEOPLE FOR GOING ON A YEAR NOW, YOU GRUDGE-HOLDING MOTHER F..... YOU KEEP BRINGING UP PAST ISSUES WITH BOTH TAMI AND ME. THAT'S CALLED HOLDING A GRUDGE.

I need to try this whole denying and reshaping history. I don't have a blog. I don't blog. I've never blogged. I've never mentioned Kees in any blog anywhere, ever.

More: "As long as those words are kept to the social networking sites there will be no further comments on this forum from me."

For those of you not paying attention, KEES WENT INTO TAMI'S BLOG REPEATEDLY AND COPY/PASTED/PARAPHRASED/BENT/SKEWED/TWISTED PORTIONS OF IT. KEES POSTED COMMENTS OVER HERE INTO THE FORUM. SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO BROUGHT TAMI'S BLOG TO THE USA MONK FORUM.

At no point in time or space did Tami EVER drag portions of her blog over the Monk forum--EVER. Kees did that. Even managed to set Liv off in the process. Kees did that. Kees is the only one who did.

So this last post should be reworded: " As long as I don't bring any more of those words to this forum, there will be no further comments on this forum from me."

I can't stop laughing. Again,

KEES CARRIED TAMI'S BLOG TO THE MONK FORUM

KEES CARRIED TAMI'S BLOG TO THE MONK FORUM

KEES CARRIED TAMI'S BLOG TO THE MONK FORUM

TAMI TOOK THE FIGHT OFF THE MONK FORUM

TAMI TOOK THE FIGHT OFF THE MONK FORUM

TAMI TOOK THE FIGHT OFF OFF OFF THE MONK FORUM

KEES TOOK IT BACK OVER THERE

KEES TOOK IT BACK OVER THERE

KEES TOOK IT BACK OVER THERE

I want to share some information with Kees' confused minions, the aiders and abettors, the ones who keep supporting this evil liar, making them all evil and liars in the process (yes, Raven, this includes you. Can you support Hitler and claim to not hate jews?)

How to Spot a Compulsive Liar
By eHow Health Editor

Compulsive liars are different from pathological liars or those who only lie periodically. There is often no obvious reason for the lying, and different underlying motivations exist for compulsive liars than for other types of liars. Certain warning signs can help you discern whether you are dealing with a compulsive liar, so read on to learn what these are.

Instructions

1. Step 1
Notice how often the person seemingly lies. Compulsive liars lie on a regular and ongoing basis; it is a habit in which they participate almost all the time.

2. Step 2
Consider the apparent ease with which a person tells a lie. If they appear uncomfortable or nervous, then chances are that they are not a compulsive liar. Lying comes naturally to a compulsive liar, who looks and feels more comfortable lying than telling the truth.

3. Step 3
Focus on the types of things that the person lies about. A compulsive liar often lies about anything and everything, even small, seemingly insignificant things.

4. Step 4
Evaluate the motivation behind the person's lying. If the person seems to lie simply when it is beneficial for them or when it gets them out of an awkward situation, they are probably not a compulsive liar. Someone who is a compulsive liar generally lies because doing so is a habit and not because they are trying to manipulate others.

5. Step 5
Think about the person's personality characteristics to determine whether they fit the stereotype of a compulsive liar. Often, compulsive liars begin this habit to get attention from others or to make themselves appear better in some way, so a compulsive liar may have issues with poor self-esteem http://www.ehow.com/how_2086429_spot-compulsive-liar.html.

6. Step 6
Examine whether a potential compulsive liar recognizes their behavior. Because lying is such an ingrained habit for a compulsive liar, they may not even recognize that they are doing it, or they may deny the behavior.

7. Step 7
Look at the person's ability to remain consistent in what they say. A compulsive liar may have a difficult time keeping their stories straight since they have injected so many lies into what they have told other people.

Post copied from June 3rd: Diagnosing the Forked Tongue One

More information on Pathological versus Compulsive Liars. Which is Kjees? You make the call:

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Pathological Liar

A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (see, Pathological Liar), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship

I can't choose. She shows symptoms of both pathologies. I've red-highlighted symptoms Kjees/Su Williams/Kees_Lady/Kjeina24/Sue O'Connor/Jimmy Hoffa/The Grand Enigma/The second gunman on the grassy knoll has exhibited in the past year.

The resolution to this whole mess Kjees started almost a year ago has been the same all along: Apologize, then drop it. We've attempted to drop it SEVERAL times--she keeps coming back needling, taunting, and riling to get it going again. She's feeding on it. She can't whine to Raven and Meta and Quin and claim to be getting picked on if it all just drops.

And Kees had the nerve to come back to that forum after the embarrassment of getting suspended, not just the main account, but the bogus one too???? Barb left the forum once again, as soon as the news of kjees' return hit her PM box. Here we go again--they let the bat back into the belfry, and people are going to leave again. When is admin on that site going to start connecting the dots?

No one stands alone--everyone has friends. It's just not that simple to spot a trouble-maker, cyber bully, and a troll. But damn, if you see a bunch of people leave, citing kjees', then see a bunch of people come back when she's been suspended, then see a bunch of people leave again when she returns, then despite whatever letter-writing campaign I'm sure kjees pushed her friends to wage, then the god damn light bulb has to go on over your heads.

I refused to post again. I knew what was going to happen. I was right. I PMed admin saying I wasn't going to come back until she was permanently denied access to the forum. They bagged up the trash in a benign, flaccid attempt to police the "disturber of the peace," but they couldn't bring themselves to carry it down to the curb.

Just a note: You can bag up all the trash in your house, but if you don't put it out for pick-up, it stays on your property, rotting, putrifying, and smelling up the place. Admin, are you going to wait until you see maggots? Are you going to wait until you have to open every single window to air it out? Are you going to wait until it starts seeping and sticking to the floor?

Post copied from June 3rd: How to deal with a Pathological/Compulsive Liar

Another excellent source:

How to Deal with a Pathological Liar
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From time to time, we all encounter a person whose truth seems more like a made up story. We come across people who take comfort in lying and sometimes even believe their own lies. How do you deal with or confront a pathological/compulsive liar? Here I will give suggestions on how to deal with the situation.
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Step 1 Do not go along with the lie. (Raven, did you read this one? Need someone to explain it to you?) If the liar insists that it is true make it clear verbally that she/he is lying.

Step 2 Expose this person every time they lie. (My God! Me and Tami have been doing it right all along!)

Step 3 Explain that lying isn't going to get them anywhere, and that honesty will gain much more praise and acceptance on your part.

Step 4 Repeat Steps 1-3 as needed.

Step 5 If there is no effect on the person, cut ties with them. Liars can get you in trouble and bring unnecessary stress to your life.

'Nuff said. Nowhere there does it say to placate the liar, to not defend yourself, to sit quietly while they attack you again and again and again. And step 5 is a really nice touch. Sound advice, if I do say so myself.

Post copied from June 23rd: USA Monk Board Admin--You have to actually carry it down to the curb!

This is what happens when you bag up your trash and don't carry it out of your house--it starts stinking. After the shame and embarrassment of being suspended twice under two different accounts, Kees is STILL posting garbage aimed at Tami. I logged in after I saw the forum empty out, in order to report Kees' new post.

Every time she posts something irrelevent, hostile, or going back to this very old grudge SHE holds and very old argument SHE started, I get Yahoo IMs from about 6 or 7 different people. Here's my PM to admin reporting today's post:


1) This thread and post have absolutely NOTHING to do with the Monk show, the purpose for which this forum exists.

2) This off-topic thread is not marked as such, and is a continuation of an argument this poster, Kees_lady, is continuously waging against another poster, Tami—who has left this forum weeks ago, again, due to this argument and this poster.

3) This thread is started saying that Tami has blocked this poster on every other site and forum. If you block a poster, you are attempting to avoid more hostility and harassment—it does NOT mean that the poster you are trying to avoid is justified to employ other methods to get their hostility and harassment through to you, and subject the rest of the forum’s posters to this garbage in the process. See Kusa's response--EVERYONE IS SICK TO DEATH OF THIS GARBAGE KEES KEEPING DRAGGING OVER HERE.

4) The grudge match referred to in this post/thread was started by Kees, not by Tami, and it is being upheld and waged as well by Kees, not by Tami. Kees_lady is telling you and everyone else in every way but sideways that, even having been suspended twice under two different accounts, that she absolutely refuses to drop this argument, at least in this forum.

I didn’t leave this forum weeks ago, as Tami did. I left it months ago. I left it just before last year’s Monk Paley event—due to this very same poster. Every time Kees posts more garbage on this forum aimed at Tami or Barb or Jeff or this very very very very old fight, I get a Yahoo Instant Message from any one of six people. I’m sick of it. This is a hostile forum.

The theory passed on to me (by another poster who left because of Kees [in the reporting PM, I mentioned exactly who that poster was]) was that the OCD and bi-polar subthemes in the Monk show have caused a lot of persons suffering from those and various other mental illnesses and disorders to gravitate toward the show, and therefore, this forum. There’s scarcely a person in this country who do not have at least one person in their own family who suffers from or is being treated for some form of mental illness. That’s fine.

However, to allow the entire forum to be held hostage and be tormented and harassed by someone so aggressive who absolutely refuses to drop an old argument they themselves started in 2008 (are we going to let it go on for a year??) is completely unnecessary.

This poster refuses to abide by the site’s TOS. They refuse to conform to acceptable social behavior and to be a pleasant, non-combative presence on the board. Why are they still there?

Tami is upset. She lives in California and I live in Pennsylvania. She doesn’t post anymore, but would still like to be able to read posts and scan the forum for information. And I get calls from her, crying on the phone.

This avatar/image Kees is referring to isn’t even owned or originating from the site Kees is citing.

Yes, Tami has her blocked everywhere—Kees has followed Tami to other sites. How else is Tami supposed to avoid her? If someone blocks you, they don’t want to hear from you. Why is Kees using the USA forum as her own personal email and website, posting irrelevant content expressly (she says so in the post) in order to defeat the purpose of a block that someone else has placed on her????

This thread does NOT belong on this forum. When are you going to police this poster?? You suspend her, and she comes right back, not giving an inch, not changing her demeanor or tone, not backing off AT ALL. Tami’s avatar has nothing to do with the Monk show—Kees insists on continuing to harass the same poster weeks after she chased that same poster off your board. When are you going to ban Kees’ IP?

--Yvette


Okay, if they don't get this hostile bitch off that forum once and for all, I'm going back to calling him El Admin. Don't bother to post TOS if you're not going to enforce them, or have the balls to ban IPs of those who violate them over and over and over and over, and then you suspend them, let them back in, and they go right back to it unabated. You allow posters to bash in there, police other posters without authority, and harass posters for months on end. What the fuck is that?

Is there an admin on that site? Why in God's name would there only be one? So if there's only one, I do have to listen when they say they're overtaxed and overburdoned, but damn. It's like Kaiser fucking Soze. Every once in a blue moon, you see him pop in the forum and some spam disappear, and like that.....he's gone. WTF?????

The monkey's flying the plane at USA. If you're going to bother to have forums, police them in some kind of substantial, VISIBLE way, or take them all down. You're just giving crazy people more places to bully and harass normal people who are simply trying to enjoy the internet. Hasn't this one 'disturber of the peace' chased enough good posters off your Monk board? Do you have short-timer's disease, like the show only has one more year so fuck it?